It’s September 2004, the Presidential election is heating up and the rhetoric is spewing from every direction. We had that Abu Ghraib torture thing, which for some reason didn’t piss ALL americans off. There were those nasty, swifty veterans who lied every chance they could about john kerry’s service in vietnam. fox made sure they had plenty of air time, and please remember that not one of those guys was ever on kerry’s boat and everyone that WAS on his boat say the exact opposite.
It’s a random weekend and i’m on the web and looking for past seymore hersh articles. I come across a story written in the national review by jed babbin, it’s about seymore hersh and his new book (at the time) called Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib. you may remember jed babbin from the bush 41 administration, he was the former deputy undersecretary of defense. so i start reading this article and i’m blown away by the amount of hot air from start to finish. he had this to say about Sy:
In recent years, however, his “investigative” reporting has produced more fiction than fact, more rant than reason. Hersh can be duped rather easily — that is, when he’s not just making stuff up.
babbin had this so say about the torture of prisoners:
(we) have captured about 50,000 prisoners…….In handling the 50,000, there have been only about 300 allegations of abuse………..Of the 300 allegations of abuse, only some 66 of them are substantiated.
(click here if you want to read batty babbin’s article)
So after reading it, i’m motivated to email this guy and call him out. so i do:
Mr. Babbin:
I was doing a search to find out more about Hersh’s new book, and I came upon your 9/17 article. I haven’t had a chance to read many of you past writings, but I read this one and felt I had to ask you a few questions. I agree with you that Seymour Hersh doesn’t speak fondly of President Bush, but there is no denying the Abu Ghraib torture story was a major news event concerning our current situation in the world, especially Iraq. What I would like to know, or better yet understand is how you can downplay the numbers. You say, “Of the 300 allegations of abuse, only some 66 of them are substantiated.” What would the American public say, or better yet, yourself say if we found out that the Iraqi’s had abused our soldiers 66 times? I would also like to know if you have had any contact with a National Guardsman? I have friends who are in the Guard and who have served and are currently serving in Iraq and I just want you to know that none of them were taught torture techniques during their weekend training. Can you tell me that these Guardsman did these things, without hearing from top people, such as bringing over dogs and hoods with the purpose of torturing POW’s. Your article lacks such facts as above. Maybe there’s something I don’t know about your past interactions with Mr. Hersh, but this article seems very unfair. We are not a country that should condone such horrible actions, and remember, the Geneva Conventions are not meant to protect their people, but intended to protect our boys and girls over there. Making sure they don’t torture our kids. Thanks you very much for you time.
i’m shocked when he actually writes me back, his response:
I do downplay those 66 incidents because: (a) they are not representative of the treatment of prisoners in Iraq or anywhere else; (b) there are eleven separate investigations, and prosecutions already under way, which will result in those responsible serving time in jail; and (c) what Hersh says, according to my own very reliable and highly-placed sources, is patently false. I don’t minimize the seriousness of what happened. But I’ve read the Taguba report. I’ve talked with a member of the Schlesinger commission, and I can say with confidence that the commanders and higher civilian officials did not know of or condone — far less order or even tolerate — what went on. On what facts to you then base your charge of unfairness?
And please spare me the sanctimony. Where were you — and all the others like you — when I was writing on NRO during the Iraq military campaign that the Iraqis were murdering American soldiers? Where were the demands for war crimes trials then? Where was all the moral outrage? Nowhere, in the mainstream media or amongst Dems or libs anywhere.
Best regards,
Jed Babbin
What are you talking about jeb? ‘you start off by saying: I do downplay those 66 incidents… and then say: i don’t minimize the seriousness of what happened. which is it? you can’t have it both ways jeb! you were deputy undersecretary of defense? how is that possible?? sanctimony…..? what iraqi military campaign are you referring to? granted, i was in high school back in ‘91, but i think during a war, one in which i clearly remember, i’d recall a campaign that ended with all these american deaths…let alone demands for war crime trials!!
why read this nonsense you ask? because jennifer, who sits right next to you at work, or at school, has seen batty babbin on fox news and thinks he’s an honest guy who would never write lies that could/does pollute her mind. and your buddy mike, he reads the national review and thinks that the bush administration is out to help the common man, he also unfortunately thinks sean hannity is an american hero (that hurt to put sean’s devil name next to the word hero). we must know the contaminated messages to better understand and discuss the topics of the day with our righty friends. you have to identify before you can relate. it’s not going to be a michael moore, a maureen dowd, a molly ivins, or even an arianna huffington that helps them see that the bushies are doing some ghastly things, it’s going to be you.
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